March 21, 2013 at 2:57 am #787
Posting PanoramasUPDATED March 21 2015
Log in, create new Panorama
You must be logged into this site as an IVRPA member to post panoramas
log in to this site, click on your name at top of page, choose “New Post” & choose “New Panorama” on the next page
Add Pano URL
add your panorama by pasting the URL into the Panorama URL box on right side of pano edit page, this will automagically embed the pano using panopress, this should be a URL ending in .html or similar or a slash “/” if no file extensionIMPORTANT
PLEASE do not embed panos from gigapan, 360cities, etc or other hosting sites that do not offer a full page embed with no ads etc, we are working on a solution for 360cities and others, stay tuned for details
Add Pano Title and Description
give your panorama a simple but descriptive title, up to 30 characters or so
please do not use any non alpha numeric characters aside from the dash “-” symbol in your title
add a description for your pano in the main edit box, you may also add other images and any text to this area as you wish
Add Pano Preview Image
use the featured image upload box to upload a 2×1 aspect thumbnail image for your panorama, this will be used in slideshows on front page displaying featured panos and as thumbnail preview in other pages and should be 1600px wide and 800px tall (2×1 aspect), wordpress will resize this image as needed for smaller thumbnails etc
this preview image is not required to be an equirectangular projection, but it should be “panoramic” and not contain any graphics, logos, text, etc, other than a small discrete watermark in lower right corner which is acceptable, look at the slideshow on the front page to see what kind of image will look good hereIMPORTANT
Preview image MUST be 1600 px x 800 px, smaller images will be upscaled and look fuzzy on larger screens
Preview image MUST be .jpg, NO .png or other file formats please
File size should be under 400kb or so for a jpg of these dimensions, jpg at 70% quality in lightroom or photoshop “save for web” should give good results
Preview image should contain NO graphics or text, other than a small discreet watermark in lower right corner
Publish your Panorama
click on the publish button
thats it !
please post any questions as reply to this topic
samMarch 17, 2015 at 8:02 am #3477
Chris WitzaniIVRPA Professional Member
Very cool new website! I encounter one small problem: the publish button is greyed-out and inactive. I can only save a draft.
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360.schnurstracks.deMarch 17, 2015 at 9:16 am #3504
Chris WitzaniIVRPA Professional Member
Ah, I see, forgot to “Set featured image”. Now Publish button is active and all fine.
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360.schnurstracks.deMarch 18, 2015 at 4:28 pm #3665
How can I post a panorama when the URL looks like this:
Heiner Straesser - derPanoramafotograf.comMarch 18, 2015 at 9:53 pm #3693
that is a full page website, NOT only a pano, we should avoid embedding a full website here as it will take over our pages…
proper full page pano will look like this, NO navivgation elements taking user to other page o pano site in same window, but pop up link in new window to author page would be fine
samMarch 19, 2015 at 3:03 am #3698
What is a full page website?
If I understand it right, my programmer has to rewrite my homepage, just to fulfill the needs of IVRPA. If the IVRPA doesn’t want to host gigabites of panoramas, why not small previews with a link to the pano?
Heiner Straesser - derPanoramafotograf.comMarch 19, 2015 at 11:17 am #3724
no, you do not need to rewrite your home page :)
all you need to do is create a single page pano or tour using krpano droplets or pano2vr or panotour etc, and embed that link here
many people make panos that way and then embed on their own site via a similar method,
the problem with embedding an entire website is that the links will take user to other pages on that site in the embed area, and then we end up with a mess…
i will try to make the instructions more clear as we go, let me know if you have any questions
samMarch 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm #3729
Pano preview works fine, but setting featured image fails. It works on my other WP sites. Here’s a screen grab
ClayMarch 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm #3731
I’m still having problems setting the featured image, I get the message in the attachment below. The pano I’m trying to set is 1600 x 800. I have to admit I have no idea what the error message is on about e.g php.ini etc. Also everything is in draft mode as the publish button is grayed out and inactive.
Should my profile page look like the attachment here or should I have one of my own panoramas along the top?
Thanks in advance
Attachments:March 19, 2015 at 9:44 pm #3776
Still getting the error that Bob Masters is getting with an image 1600 by 800 as the featured image.
If I reduce the featured image to 500 x 500 pixels, it does work. I know that’s not what you want however, but perhaps it’s a clue to resolving the problem.
ClayMarch 19, 2015 at 11:28 pm #3778
hmm, i examined one of bob’s files earlier that luc showed me, only problem i could tell was that it was 1.2mb for a 1600px jpg, which is way too large for such a file, after running it through lightroom export (jpg, 70% quality setting) it got down to 155k, which is more reasonable size…
otherwise, i have not had any problems uploading all the files her myself, can you let me know what app and settings you are exporting with ?
samMarch 20, 2015 at 2:03 am #3779
hmm, i have done some more research on the “please upload something more substantial” error in wordpress and recommended solutions, our php memory limit is fine which is a common cause, but nothing i could see that would apply here…
and most users are having no problems, and it is only intermittent with you guys ?
can you post some more info, web browser and version, app used to export jpg and settings, file size etc ?
samMarch 20, 2015 at 3:56 am #3784
thank you very much for your help. Now it works fine.
Heiner Straesser - derPanoramafotograf.comMarch 20, 2015 at 11:13 am #3819
I uploaded the ‘featured image/preview image’ at 1600 x 800, but this time with a file size of 537 Kb ..works perfectly. Perhaps it would be an idea to mention this in the blue box ‘Important’ at the top
of this page?
Also, I noticed the button on the left hand side: Media -> Add New -> Upload New Media ..there is a
maximum upload file size of 64 MB, is this the total of all media that can be uploaded by each member or a limit on one file? Apologies for my ignorance on this one.
BobMarch 20, 2015 at 9:24 pm #3877
Got it Sam.
No problems now, ‘cept I now have to provide worthy content.
ClayMarch 22, 2015 at 2:35 am #3911
btw @bobmasters, 2 of your panos do not have correct aspect preview image, this breaks the front page slideshow which expects 2×1 aspect images, and also messes up display on pano gallery page and sidebar etc
but you can embed whatever other alt aspect preview you like on the pano page itself, and i will be documenting features for member galleries and header images and all sorts of other fun stuff too, but i am impressed at how much people have already figured out with almost no instructions from me at all :)
samMarch 24, 2015 at 1:08 pm #4061
Do you want me to take those 2 panos down Sam? ..or maybe I just add a black bar above and below to give them the correct aspect ratio?
I would like to keep them on my profile page, if you can think of another work around pls let me know.
BobMarch 24, 2015 at 3:00 pm #4074
Ok I’ve put the two panos back up now with black strip top and bottom so it gives a 2×1 aspect ratio.March 26, 2015 at 12:47 am #4237
hmm, the problem now is that the letterboxing makes the front page slideshow look not quite right with some slides vs the normal full images…
i think it is best for now if we try to keep to some sort of standards here, panos like yours that are full 360° HFOV and 3×1 or 4×1 etc can be used as normal page header images (still working on some things there, stay tuned), and can also be embedded in articles etc, and i will be adding more gallery features for other sorts of panorama portfolios etc as we go
eventually, i will also set up a way to filter slideshow and sidebar etc so only selected panos display in these areas, but i have not had time for that yet…
i am really still figuring out these details and trying to decide what works best for everyone here, so please feel free to offer any feedback etc, and things will be evolving as we go, but there will probably always be some compromises with a site like this that has over 300 co-authors, finding a solution that works for everyone is rarely easy :)
Attachments:April 20, 2015 at 6:31 am #4914
henky christiantoIVRPA Associate Member
I still don’t get the instruction correctly. Do you mean I can’t just upload one pano file such as QTVR (or SWF), but need to create one full page (i.e. in other website), is that right?
HenkyApril 21, 2015 at 5:53 am #4925
that is correct, no uploads of qtvr or swf, which do not allow viewing on mobile devices or multi res or virtual tours or 360° video or etc or other modern features, both are obsolete formats nowadays, html5 is the current standard for 360° VR panoramic content
also, the majority of feedback during testing phase was concerning mobile layout and accessibility etc, mobile device make up about 10% of traffic so far
our new system allows members to embed their own content hosted on their own server or elsewhere, and allows them to post any sort or panoramic VR content, gigapixel panos, 360° video, virtual tours, etc etc
please let us know if you have any other questions or suggestions
samJuly 14, 2015 at 3:24 am #6423
Could you please enable Panorama Posting access for our account? We would love to contribute to your gallery by adding a few featured WalkInto here every week.
Boni GopalanJuly 14, 2015 at 5:10 am #6429
sorry about that, there was an error in site permission settings
sponsor members ability to post panoramas was accidentally switched off, this has now been fixed
please report any other errors or unexpected behavior you may come across, bug reports on this site are always very welcome :)
samJuly 14, 2015 at 5:51 am #6434
Thank you for taking care of it. Just added one. Worked great.July 25, 2015 at 12:57 am #6551
one other thing to note is that panorama titles should never include the name of the member or author or photographer or host etc, member name is always displayed alongside pano anyhow, and other info could be included in the pano post body, but not in the title please
samJuly 25, 2015 at 1:55 am #6553
We noticed that you have fixed the titles of our recent panorama posts. Now, there is a context here for our nomenclature and hope you can help us with an alternative that works. Since the WalkInto tours added here is not really createb by ‘WalkInto’ but by one of our users, we think it makes sense to add the attribution in the title. What would you recommend?
Team WalkIntoJuly 26, 2015 at 12:37 am #6556
sorry i have not really documented this or any advance notice etc
the way this site is set up, the name of the IVRPA member who posted the pano will alway be displayed alongside it anyway, so adding the member name in the title would be redundant and display post author name (ivrpa member who posted) 2x, and if everyone did this, all pano titles would all be unnecessarily long…
proper pano title should be like this, just a simple description, name of location or similar
and will display on the site like this
Panorama Title – IVRPA Member Name
a pano titled like this
Panorama Title | Photographer Name | IVRPA Member Name
would display like this
Panorama Title | Photographer Name | IVRPA Member Name – IVRPA Member Name
and in this case, your pano photographers are not necessarily IVRPA members themselves, so including their names directly in pano titles does not seem appropriate ?
however, you may include any info or credit you like in the pano post body itself, photographer name, what type of camera was used, names of architect or designer or talent etc, who made lunch that day, or pretty much anything else you like :)
also note that you may (probably should) give your uploaded images more descriptive file names, like
panorama-title-photographer-name-walkinto.jpg, this will not display anywhere on this site but does help SEO etc
we also plan to roll out proper news, reviews, and tutorial posts for sponsors and members soon, but we need to sort out some details and devise and post an “editorial policy” etc so as to avoid any confusion here
anyway, please let us know if you have any thoughts or feedback etc on the above, we are always open to suggestions as to making our members and sponsors happy :)
samJuly 30, 2015 at 4:20 am #6612
also, all members should avoid uploading heavily pixilated and posterized images like below, these images will display very poorly when shown on front page slideshow, end eventually panoramas with this sort of low quality preview will be filtered out of front page featured pano slideshow altogether, but will still show on member gallery page
note the very heavy banding in the sky and ground, as well as heavy pixelation on graphic elements etc
also note that panorama previews should not contain strong graphics as explained at top of this topic page
samJuly 30, 2015 at 4:30 am #6613
Hi Sam, do you still have a 50kb size limit for thumbnail images? we were forced to reduce the quality to fit in the 50kb restriction.
EDIT: Ahh! See that it’s 500kb. My bad. Was wondering.July 30, 2015 at 4:57 am #6615
500k is not a hard limit, but should be more than sufficient for pano previews or any other image uploaded to this site
i have found that most of my own panos at 1600×800 end up at about 250k or so after 70% quality jpg save in lightroom or photoshop from master image
when you replace these images please delete the old ones, this will help keep things orderly in th admin area
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