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  • #16564
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    Hi
    I am trying to get panos using NN6 with RD10 rotator, I tried shooting 4, 6 and 8 images, and non look ok
    What am I doing wrong please?
    My camera is Nikon D850
    regards

    #16565
    Jürgen Schrader
    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Director Member secretary

    To understand what could be the issue you’d better provide a sample. If the error is not immediately visible please also describe what you think is not ok.

    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Secretary

    #16566
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    I deleted the files, I will take some in few minutes, and was wandering, I used to take 6 images with my 16mm fish eye, so 14 should be less, but as it is not fish eye maybe 8 will be ok (with both 90 and 90/2 screwed tight on rd10)
    but I get bad stitching using AutpPano pro
    regards

    #16567
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    here are the shots
    a and b, same place 8 and 12 shots
    c is a narower place 12 shots, I noticed narrower places have more problems
    https://files.fm/u/pyq69gv7

    stitched panos using autopano pro, a and b had an extra shot for sky not included in individual shots
    https://files.fm/u/es8a3vxg

    #16577
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    Hi
    I am trying to get panos using NN6 with RD10 rotator, I tried shooting 4, 6 and 8 images, and non look ok
    What am I doing wrong please?
    My camera is Nikon D850 with Nikkor 14mm ultra wide lens

    here are the shots
    a and b, same place 8 and 12 shots
    c is a narrower place 12 shots, I noticed narrower places have more problems
    https://files.fm/u/pyq69gv7

    stitched panos using autopano pro, a and b had an extra shot for sky not included in individual shots
    https://files.fm/u/es8a3vxg

    regards

    #16579

    kiteboardbudd
    Forum Member

    ill take a look at these tonight and help u out.

    in meantime, screenshot your autopano settings. prob just needs a lil tweaking.

    -budd

    #16580
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    Thanx
    I am using default settings of autopano pro, all old panos weith 16mm were great, but the 14mm is sharper and better, so I did not work on tweaking the settings :(

    #16581
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    any updates please, I have an opportunity to shoot a place that I can’t access again, or should I stick to the 16mm?

    #16583
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    sorry for asking

    #16584
    Jürgen Schrader
    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Director Member secretary

    Sorry for the delay, I only now saw your links.
    First of all, the website of your sharing service is rated malicious by several browsers and Malwarebytes. This might keep people from proceeding any further. However, I took the risk and got the images. YOLO.

    All three sets stitch perfectly fine in PTGUI. I just droped them and let PTGUI stitch, not manual tweaking needed. I don’t use Autopano. So what is the problem with your stitch?

    Maybe Autopano get’s confused because the images do have a lot of overlap. Too much overlap probably.
    Also you should make yourself familiar with the concept of using manual settings for shooting panoramas.

    Sidenote: I doubt that the final result will make a big difference whether you use the 16mm or the 14mm.
    The 16mm has proven to deliver suberb results on the latest Nikon cameras.

    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Secretary

    #16586
    Hani Draye
    Hani Draye
    IVRPA Professional Member

    Thanx a million
    I entend to shoot in narrow areas, and I need details as I want to shoot galleries and shows, so those who can not attend, will have a taste of the thing. 14mm is sharper and if I want to extract a part of the photo for any reason, I dont get the fisheye feeling.
    Perfect stitching is a must for clients, and I woul love to make some money out of this, so that why I like it more (the 14mm)

    I tried the PTgui, but found it harer to use, so I bought the autopano license.
    I will download it again, and give it a try, I dont mind buying it if serving the porpose.
    Sorry about the site, but it was first on google search.
    I just took a pano for the new cinema theater in Riyadh (first in 4 decades) at riyadhkey.com/amc1
    the building was designed by Zaha Hadid, I took it in a hurry as they were not allowing cameras, I hope I can get some advice on enhancing my shhoting

    regards

    Hani

    #16588
    Jürgen Schrader
    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Director Member secretary

    Unfortunately I can’t tell what’s causing the problem in Autopano as I’m not an avid user of it. I use PTGUI since more than ten years for all my work and it never failed. Your images stitched with an average error below 1px.

    I agree that the 14mm is more versatile, but if you really need good images I’d not use such an extreme wide angle. Rather use something like 16-35 or 24-70 and for the panoramas a dedicated fisheye for 4 shots around. When you shoot in tight places the 14mm also might cause headaches with DOF.

    With the 14mm you will need at least 8-10 images to cover the sphere. Which also means more time shooting and processing.

    The stitch of the cinema looks good, I saw minor issues due to a blurred frame at the top.

    Jürgen Schrader
    IVRPA Secretary

    #17744
    Aaron D. Priest
    Aaron D. Priest
    IVRPA Professional Member

    Nikon’s older 14mm prime is not as sharp as the 14-24mm f/2.8 zoom (one of my favorite lenses for 360s!). 14mm requires two rows ideally though (at least for the night sky stuff I shoot at wide apertures, 1 row doesn’t provide sufficient overlap for blending, even with dedicated zenith and nadir). I haven’t used the older Nikon 16mm fisheye, but I’ve heard great things about it. I recently got the new 8-15mm zoom fisheye, and I can attest that it is very, very sharp. I’m still testing it at 15mm against 14mm on my 14-24mm to see which I prefer, the fisheye requires less shots though. And at around 12mm I can use as few as 4 in a single row, which is ideal for fast shooting.

    I also am a long time PTGui user (also more than a decade, highly recommend it!) and while I also own AutoPano Giga, I don’t have as much experience with it for 360s to give much advice on it.

    #17746
    Keith Martin
    Keith Martin
    IVRPA Director Member president

    Your 16mm lens is a fisheye, not a wide angle. Although its ‘mm’ number is larger it sees further than the 14mm ultrawide does, so if you switch to shooting with the 14mm you’ll need to change your shooting pattern – take more shots and as Aaron says shoot multiple rows.

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