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nikon fisheyes are the only ones i have ever personally used, 10.5mm, 16mm, and the new 8-15mm zoom
all of the lenses below have their advantages and disadvantages, cost, size, weight, etc, a wider fisheye like 8mm would give you more overlap so better for masking in crowd shots etc, longer fisheyes will give more resolution and detail, cheap fisheyes are more prone to flare and chromatic aberrations, more expensive lenses are typically sharper, etc etc
Tokina 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 AT-X 107 AF DX NH Fisheye (no lens hood version) is similar FOV to nikon and canon zoom, this was a very popular 360 pano lens before canon and nikon made their own fisheye zooms, tokina 10-17mm fisheye zoom costs about $450 on amazon etc
samyang (also branded as rokinon or bower) 8mm fisheye w removable lens hood for nikon F mount is also a popular choice due to price (about $200) and easy shooting pattern, samyang 12mm fisheye (about $400) is a bit better image quality overall, but slightly more complicated shooting and stitching
sigma makes an 8mm fisheye which is supposed to be very good, but not cheap, also a 4.5mm fisheye which is not cheap either and has very very small image circle (huge waste of pixels on nikon fx), and also 10.5mm and 16mm fisheyes, both at similar price to nikon equivalents
nikon 10.5mm fisheye is a nice and small lens but requires cutting off the lens hood to use on FX full frame and 4 around w no N+Z shots (i shot like this on D800), or otherwise it will same fov as 16mm on DX in crop mode, requiring 6 around and N+Z shots for full sphere pano
nikon 16mm fisheye requires 6 shots around & N+Z shots on full frame camera, smaller and lighter compared to the zoom
nikon 8-15mm fisheye zoom is larger and heavier and more expensive than any of the other lenses above, but in my experience it has better image quality vs any of the others i have seen
samyang 8mm fisheye is fine to start with, there are better lenses but this one is ok and affordable
you can also shoot a spherical panorama with any lens, but longer FOV = more shots, so if you have a decent wide angle this will work fine on NN6, just takes a bit more work vs fisheye
otherwise, note there are both samyang 12mm fisheye and rectilinear lens which are not the same thing, and there are several models and generations of 8mm fisheye
and, samyang 12mm fisheye is not the exact same FOV as Nikon or canon 8-15mm fisheye at 12mm
8mm on any of the discussed lenses will result in a full circle image, with lots of wasted space around the circle, so that is not ideal imo, but not the end of the world either, you also get more overlap so better for crowd panos etc
nikon or canon 8-15mm fisheye zoom at 12mm will let you shoot only 4 images around at 0° for complete 360°x180 sphere with no nadir or zenith (up or down) shots needed
samyang 12mm fisheye is not quite the same FOV as the others, so it requires a different shooting pattern with additional N+Z shots
more info on shooting panos w samyang 12mm fisheye here –
NN6 is better for larger DSLR like D850, NN3 is good for smaller DSLR or mirrorless camera
full size RD10 rotator will be better also, D850 is a heavy camera and RD10 will be more stable vs mini rotator
if you are using a fisheye in single row (no up or down shots) you can use NN R10 with lens ring, this is smaller and lighter vs NN3 or NN6, but you cannot shoot multi-row panos with this head
samyang 8mm is ok, but you will not be getting the most out of D850 with that lens, nikkor 8-15mm fisheye is best fisheye lens for panos on full frame nikon, 12mm on that lens gives the max resolution for single row panos with fisheye lens, 8mm circular fisheye on either lens has lots of black area around circle so wasted pixels
here is one of my own panos with my own gear, D850 + nikkor 8-15mm @ 12mm, NN R1 + lens ring
preview image must be 1600×800 px jpg, file size should be under about 400k
embedded pano from roundme requires the embed url from the sharing code (normal page url will not work properly), it will look something like this –
also see this topic for more info – http://ivrpa.org/forums/topic/how-do-i-post-a-panorama/
back to the original question, here are 3 excellent krpano – panotour devs
Arthur van den Enk – http://virtualtuur.com
Nuno Madeira – http://wide.pt/
Majd Salim – https://www.linkedin.com/in/majd-salim-13398920/
samAugust 8, 2018 at 7:17 am in reply to: Posting 360 photos with own branding and interactivity #18032
marzipano and pannellum are also good choices if you are looking for free open source software to create 360° tours, but not as full featured as the commercial apps mentioned by jürgen
also see this page for a list of links and tutorials for shooting and stitching 360° panoramas, as well as creating and hosting your own 360° tours
if your photos do not have gps meta you must add it manually, adobe lightroom can do it but so can many other geotagging apps
once your images have gps info you can upload them to streetview using the streetview app
what type of computer are you using with the ricoh app ?
if your computer is not up to spec the app may not work as expected, check the hardware requirements here –
see this error in the console on your page, your site is denying iframe access to ivrpa.org domain, this would need to be fixed on your end
[Error] Refused to display 'https://360photoplus.com/wp-content/vt/Grand_Hotel/?html5=only&s=pano30' in a frame because it set 'X-Frame-Options' to 'SAMEORIGIN, SAMEORIGIN'.
do you mean embed your tour in a member panorama page ?
have you followed the instructions in this post ?
ssl coming soon ;)
inexpensive one shot 360 cameras like ricoh theta and gopro fusion etc can do well in ideal circumstances, but will never give you the same quality images as DSLR or mirrorless with interchangeable lens etc
for a comparison of one shot 360 cameras see this review page –
Unity + Google VR SDK ?
yes, i am in fact a current IVRPA director and webmaster for last 7+ years and IVRPA member for almost 12 years, and here i am communicating with IVRPA members without any problem or need for assistance or reminders
does IVRPA have a communications problem ?
as you yourself are in communication with myself and the other directors via your very frequent emails, facebook posts and private messages, posts in this forum, etc etc etc, i believe you should know how easy we are to reach ?
please notice the frequent IVRPA director posts and IVRPA member activity on the IVRPA facebook page, various facebook groups, twitter, youtube, etc, IVRPA is in fact quite active on all these channels and more
you might have also noticed the frequent news posts on this IVRPA site itself, have a look at our front page for example – http://ivrpa.org
and also please remember that this particular private members forum is mostly used for archiving important IVRPA member news, other forums on this site are quite a bit more active, so comparing activity here to a facebook group is missing the point, we use many other channels to communicate with our members on an almost daily basis as well
so, the assertion that IVRPA has a “communications problem” is clearly biased and not supported by any actual evidence at all, and is hence “misleading”, and as brian’s post here was only echoing your own original assertion of this alleged “problem” on your own facebook group, it is not surprising that you agree with it
mailing lists – newsletters
IVRPA uses mailchimp and other mailing list list platforms to communicate with our members about important issues for many years, not to spam our members with frequent “reminders”, we have found that frequent newsletters duplicating content already on our website only causes more folks to unsubscribe from the list (many of our members find too many “reminders” unnecessary and annoying judging by past feedback we have received) vs generating a significant number of clicks to our site, so we like to keep that channel mostly clear for important communications rather than dilute its usefulness in notifying our members of early conference tickets, elections, and other important news, i recall discussing this in great detail with you in the past at which point you agreed with this policy
and anyone who says they “really care about IVRPA” should be able to find the time to click on a bookmark once a week vs waiting for a newsletter to be dropped in their lap ?
communications director and web/social media team
IVRPA does have a communications director and web/social team, we are the ones posting here and on facebook etc, and you were part of this effort until you resigned almost 2 years ago, since that time others have been doing all the work involved here and i assure you we all know our jobs and take this responsibility very seriously, and otherwise activity and traffic from IVRPA members and non members alike have increased across all of our channels since you left the team
improving IVRPA communications and collaborating with IVRPA
anyone who wishes to contribute to the actual work involved in running and maintaining all of this should get in touch with us and let us know how you can collaborate with the IVRPA directors and web team, repeating 10 year old “ideas” (in 4 different places) that have been explored in depth by IVRPA and either implemented or rejected long ago is not quite as helpful, and remember that teamwork involves cooperation with others, not one party appointing themselves to dictate what others “should” be doing
krpano has very robust support for VR headsets as default behavior since version 1.19, click on the VR headset icon here to see a basic example
and a more elaborate example here –
Kolor Panotour Pro also suports VR headset mode –
as does Pano2VR –
shooting with a fisheye lens at infinity or hyperfocal will give sufficient DOF for most pano environments, so no real need for focus stacking unless you want to experiment with special technique in an environment where is is needed
ptgui is for stitching panos, pano2vr is for building tours (from already stitched panos), these are 2 different things, also note that adobe flash is obsolete as a 360 pano display method and all modern 360 tour apps produce html5 output
sounds like you may end up with some big tours, you will probably want to experiment with a few hosting options to figure out which works best for you, self-host gives more control, roundme etc ease of use
dslr and good lens will give much better quality vs one shot 360 camera, but also a lot more work for you, try both and see what best suits your needs
lens distortion is not really a factor in stitched panos, longer lens means more images, more chance for stitching error, longer stitch time etc, you can stitch with any lens but most pros use a 8mm to 16mm fisheye for typical non-giga resolution panos
please see this page for info on basics of shooting, stitching, creating tours, etc
samJune 18, 2018 at 6:48 am in reply to: IVRPA membership recurring payment without authorization ? [Resolved] #17687
i am just trying to help expedite your refund, no reason to be offended
and there is no problem here, you will be getting your refund as was said a few times already
but i am the webmaster and not the treasurer so i cannot issue it personally, i have no access to ivrpa paypal account, and our treasurer is on the road and will do this as soon as he is back, which should be a few days as was stated above several times
thank you for your patienceJune 18, 2018 at 6:30 am in reply to: IVRPA membership recurring payment without authorization ? [Resolved] #17685
thank you for the advice, we will look at our system’s notifications
and do note that your payments are through the paypal site and not directly on IVRPA site itself so please check with paypal to confirm your original agreement and terms concerning notifications etc with them
and again, stand by for your refund, it will be coming shortlyJune 17, 2018 at 7:06 pm in reply to: IVRPA membership recurring payment without authorization ? [Resolved] #17682
the IVRPA website is certainly in compliance with all paypal and other payment systems rules and applicable laws
GDPR (EU laws you mentioned) are about data privacy which is nothing to do with paypal or any other payment systems
please await our treasurers response for your refundJune 17, 2018 at 11:05 am in reply to: IVRPA membership recurring payment without authorization ? [Resolved] #17680
if you read the agreement with paypal you checked you would see it does clearly state that the charge for membership is a recurring payment, and as such must be canceled by you if you to not wish to subscribe to IVRPA membership, this is also indicated clearly on our join page as well as a link to unsubscribe easily on your own as is all required by paypal rules and the law
if you missed this somehow or some paypal glitch etc, dont worry, we will cancel your membership and refund your payment no problem
The assertion that “IVRPA does not communicate with its members” is totally false and purposefully misleading
IVRPA directors communicate with members on an almost daily basis on many platforms public and private, this is fact becomes messy and confusing and leaves no record for future directors or members so we always encourage folks to use this official forum or BoD email
THIS WEBSITE IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR MEMBERS TO CONTRIBUTE IDEAS 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, it always has been and always will be, it was built for that specific purpose as you well know, and implying that IVRPA members lack a voice here is another false claim
It is misleading to claim that there are any “problems” preventing member communication in this forum, or that we need random self-appointed members to start their own self-moderated group on other sites (containing their own hand picked selection of only a few IVRPA members and non IVRPA-members as well) to “fix” things, and also note that sharing private IVRPA members forum content on such a group would be a very serious violation of IVRPA member privacy and IVRPA bylaws !
It is also misleading to to say that the IVRPA website itself is the somehow the cause of member’s lack of participation, we have an extremely robust platform which allows members to publish news and forum posts, panoramas, etc etc, and easily share this content on any site they like, competing with facebook for daily traffic high score is not our goal or mission
Yes, we could update this group 6 times a week with unimportant day to day stuff, but this would fill the forum with unimportant fluff, as well as take more time away from more important things we deal with
IVRPA directors are typically quite busy with conference planning and wrap up most of the year along with the other work that goes into running a volunteer NPO and this website, and all of our important activity is front page news, not something we hide in a members only forum
IVRPA also just had our yearly IVRPA Conference in Tokyo Japan, here we had face to face members and directors meetings, presentations, awards, etc etc, you may have noticed some news about this on our front pages (not buried in private forums) and facebook and other sites recently
Can our communications be improved? – YES!
Are we open to new ideas ? – YES!
Can IVRPA members contribute new ideas here? – YES!
Can non-members contribute new ideas in public forums? – YES!
Do we need false claims to motivate this participation? – NO!!!
Also note that IVRPA is not an antique printing company from decades ago, welcome to the world wide web, it is open all the time for everyone ;)
another way to improve member participation and communication is for members to answer user questions in the public forums
i do this all the time but hardly anyone else ever does at all, if more members participated in these civilian discussions then it would encourage even more participation from other members as well as the public, and this would draw in more traffic etc etc
there are no “technical” issues preventing this or limiting member participation here in any way, members can create forum posts, news articles, panoramas, share our work and expertise with the world etc, and promote these posts and our members on facebook and all that, but there seems to be an apparent lack of motivation by the members to do so, and that can only be fixed by the members themselves
Volume of posts is not what is important, relevance and quality of posts is what is important here
This specific IVRPA members area forum is only for specifically private IVRPA biz and not for general public news or questions etc, and as most of our activity is public like conferences and such we don’t feel the need to update this private members forum 25 times a day just for the sake of it like some breakneck facebook group ;)
You will find most of IVRPA’s activity in the news section on the main page of this website, there we have over 50 new news posts by current IVRPA directors from the last few months alone, this is our main channel to communicate with members and the public, we also use facebook and mailchimp to promote these posts and our events and alert our members of important news etc, but facebook is not a replacement for our own private members only areas
The main reason IVRPA uses facebook is to bring traffic to this site, it is one of many channels that we use in such a fashion, social media, mailchimp, etc, all of these are successfully used to promote IVRPA and bring traffic to our own IVRPA website, so posting about IVRPA (with links to IVRPA website) on facebook etc is the way to use it to promote our org and encourage use of this site, not to create new channels to take discussions away from this site where they will never be seen by most members ;)
Facebook is of course also a valuable communication tool, and as you know IVRPA and our directors are all quite active on facebook and on other social channels, and feedback and questions etc etc from our members and others is a daily thing there, but we will always point to the official channels for important communications, which should be directed to BoD email or this forum
I would personally love to see more participation and feedback from members in ALL forums here as i have been saying for years, so if anyone else wishes to help stimulate use of our forums they should post and reply more often, and not be discouraged that it may take some time and a bit of effort to get that off the ground
some info about krpano and accessibility here –
samJune 14, 2018 at 7:02 am in reply to: Process to upload Pano's and Street View API in IVRPA Profile #17607
read the post on publishing new panos, you need a preview image as mentioned above and post content (say something about the pano) before it will allow publishing
samJune 12, 2018 at 2:58 am in reply to: Process to upload Pano's and Street View API in IVRPA Profile #17588
you cannot “upload” any panos to ivrpa site, but IVRPA members can embed a GSV pano in a panoramas post which will appear on their profile and in sidebars etc like so
go to share>embed in your GSV pano and copy the src=”” value from the iframe code, it will look something like this –
paste this value into the pano url field in your new panoramas post, also make sure to upload a good quality 1600×800 preview image which will be used for thumbnails etc
and see this post for more info on posting panos here –
here is the GSV pano from above, this was just a oneshot 360 camera snapshot, i don’t post any of my own high quality work on google so mo own posts on ivrpa site are hosted elsewhere
uploading to where ? google street view ?
if so, make sure your panoramas have proper metadata for google with this app –