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ok, we are now updated to wordpress 5
everything seems to be working properly, gutenberg editor is apparently not yet fully compatible with our custom post types like panoramas and event pages, so it will only affect pages created by site editors, not normal users
next up is SSL
please report anything that seems out of order here
voting is now closed, and the results are now visible in the above post, and the top 4 candidates have been elected as IVRPA Directors for 2019-2020:
Tanja Barnes (54 Votes)
Jurgen Schrader (48 Votes)
Michael Kolchesky (46 Votes)
Karyn Laudisi (44 Votes)
thanks to all who participated
click on the about page in top menu, this page has a sidebar with various sections, including a private Directors area with all sorts of interesting things to explore
clicking through all the links in that side bar will give you a good idea of what is there ;)
ps – lots of stuff on all those pages is out of date and needs to be updated
there is actually a private BoD page on this site that has detailed outlines of officer and director and other “manager” responsibilities
it was originally written in 2010 by mathias t., so it is a bit out of date with a few things, “open source manager” etc never really happened, but it is a good list to start with
i’m sure all current directors have put in some time to explore this site over the last few years so everyone should know where this page is by now without me posting a link here ;)
redundant comments here have been deleted, and further redundancy will be marked as spam
anyone who is not satisfied with the above statement is welcome to vote for the candidates of their choosing, using the existing candidate statements
ivrpa forum admin
it is abundantly clear that someone here is using the suggestion of term limits as a last ditch effort in a personal vendetta to get rid of their rivals without an election, funny how they only bring this up when there is a personal grudge involved
if IVRPA had term limits i could NEVER have built this website or accomplished my other goals here as i would have had to deal with a completely new group of directors every other year or i would have been obligated to “step aside” myself before the project was finished, and the directors who dropped out when they found the workload directors must bear not to their liking or otherwise put their own ego before business made things difficult enough as it was
btw, after jürgen, i am currently the 2nd longest serving director, since 2011, maybe you guys think i should “step aside” as well ?
as for candidates and deadlines etc, you opened the door by demanding a new deadline, you then dropped out, and now you are complaining about the consequences of our accommodating your original complaint ?
i get the strong impression that some minds are already made up here, so what would be the point in jürgen elaborating any further ?
in my own 8 years of experience on the board of directors, working with many others in that time, i find the ones who stick around are the ones who actually get things done, and jürgen’s record here is exemplary in my own experience working alongside him all these years
the biggest problem with many former IVRPA directors imo is lack of long term dedication, and tossing our most experienced and dedicated and knowledgeable directors overboard to satisfy one former director’s personal grudge is not a good plan at all, but this selfish and destructive impulse is clearly the only goal here
so, as the current board of directors is doing an excellent job despite the inevitable glitches in an ever changing cast, “steady on course” seems a good plan to me right now :)
once we get through all of our year end responsibilities, then we will lay out our plans for the coming year in more detail, you “may” have already seen some news of these plans on this site’s front page and facebook and twitter and other IVRPA communication channels
LEADERSHIP, TEAMWORK, AND COOPERATION
as another director said in another topic, IVRPA is not a lone wolf organization, one member’s overwhelming obsession with being king for life does not outweigh the work and dedication of others, and one person’s personal grudges should never decide IVRPA policy
members like jürgen who spend years of their time quietly and selflessly working to keep IVRPA afloat without ever once demanding a fortune in compensation or feeling the need to publicly disparage his former teammates is what ivrpa needs more of
members who need to always be the center of attention, who think the rules and bylaws should be altered to accommodate their every whim, who accept no responsibility for their own errors, and publicly and privately attack anyone who disagrees with them while endlessly bragging about their own past achievements do not make good directors or leaders of any sort imo
the type of autocratic and ego driven “leadership” luc suggests here and elsewhere is short sighted and irresponsible imo, and all the arguments he has presented make it clear his goals are not in anyone’s interest save his own
jürgen has my vote here as well as my complete confidence in his work, i also totally support all of the other current IVRPA directors, even the ones i sometimes squabble or disagree with, cooperation with others can sometimes be difficult but it is a better way to bring IVRPA and all of our members forward vs these endless feuds some members seem to favor
further off topic replies here will be deleted
Please stay on topic here!
luc, you are seriously rambling and way off topic here, and your negativity and illogical arguments and accusations are not making any sense at all, you are letting a personal grudge seriously cloud your judgment for a while now which has destroyed any support you once had with any IVRPA directors, please stop it ?
it has been very clearly explained that i was in the middle of traveling from new orleans to nyc through a snowstorm when you had your posting problem and you started harassing me with PM’s on facebook, and it is extremely inconsiderate for you to demand i drop everything else and help you with computer issues 24/7/365, so can you PLEASE stop going on about that ?
Don’t blame others for one’s own mistakes
also, YOU waited until the last minute to post your own statement this year, that is no ones fault but your own, this and getting caught in automatic spam filter caused your problem, if you had not been so indecisive as to wait until the last minute you might have avoided that issue, and last minute planning, indecisiveness, and blaming all one’s problems on others are not good leadership qualities imo
furthermore, after complaining about how the result of your own tardiness were somehow “unfair” to you, and us then moving the deadline to accommodate you, you then WITHDREW your own candidacy, but you are still complaining and now accusing us of somehow rigging things against you ? seriously ?
Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house
and i recall you neglecting to call an election in 2016 at all, is that somehow more “democratic” in your own royal opinion ?
and complaining about a budget deficit that was created by the unprecedented compensation you demanded for organizing a couple of conferences ?
Please respect this forum and other members
this topic is not your own candidate statement or soapbox, and further off topic replies in this thread will be deleted, please at least have the courtesy and respect for this forum to use one of your existing conspiracy theory topics rather than add these off topic rants in every other post that somehow irks you
this is better as forum post topic (for users and members) vs news article (for general public) imo, so i’m gonna make this a sticky in web forum
a few days ago there was a glitch in our avatar plugin resulting in a few dozen user avatars that had been uploaded by admins (not user uploaded) being accidentally deleted, so any user who sees they have a blank avatar should upload a new one, sorry about this but it was not a predictable or deliberate event, just a software bug
before uploading your profile avatar image file, please name your avatar file something like “my-name-ivrpa.jpg”, use your own name (or company name) and dashes “-“, not spaces ” ” or underscore “_”
proper image file names will mean your ivrpa profile will do better in google searches AND you will make life much easier for the hard working IVRPA site admins trying to keep this all organized :)
good avatar file names: (use your own name, of course)
• Comapny-Name-logo.jpg (sponsor avatar and logos etc)
bad avatar file names: bad file names are not descriptive or relevant or unique
• sam old photo 2016.jpg
very bad avatar file names: random alphanumeric name is not helpful when searching for lost files, please don’t use image file names like this
your long record of good work for IVRPA speaks for itself, and your long term dedication to IVPRA is truly appreciated by all members
while some may think of being an IVRPA director as a game in which they can hop in or out as suits their weekly mood, you have always set a good example for all of us in showing true responsibility, dedication, and patience in quietly doing the work required here without any need for personal fanfare or adulation, and always rising above the petty feuds to keep ivrpa running smoothly over many bumpy roads
and we all look forward to continue working with you on board of directors in the coming years ;)
samNovember 19, 2018 at 10:47 pm in reply to: Reminder: Facebook is NOT the IVRPA Members Forum! #18732
no one has been “banned” or otherwise restricted from posting in this forum, but apparently some posts were automatically caught in the akismet spam queue, and this queue has to be manually checked and cleared from time to time, but as far as i can see all posts mentioned above are live and accounted for
sending me private messages on facebook is NOT the 24/7/365 IVRPA emergency helpline, i was in the middle of traveling back to NYC through a huge east coast blizzard and 3+ hour flight delays when you started messaging me, and i did not make it home till about 12 hours later at almost 4am, anyone demanding that i immediately drop everything else and help them use a computer is making an unreasonable and inconsiderate demand
Respecting IVRPA Forum Privacy
it has been stated many times over many years by many people that IVRPA members should not drag IVRPA biz into outside public forums, this rule has always been equally applied to all members and has been in place long before either of us joined IVRPA, former directors who supported this policy while in office certainly cannot claim ignorance here, and purposefully choosing to ignore these rules and disrespect our community while blaming others is not the kind of leadership IVRPA needs imo
perhaps IVRPA bylaws are not important to some folks, but following them is a legal requirement of a NPO, i am sorry if anyone feels the bylaws are somehow biased against them or otherwise inconvenient for them, but i did not write the bylaws, nor would i support altering or voiding them to suit anyone’s daily mood or whims
i recall that a former IVRPA president failed to call and then canceled the 2016 elections entirely, and also failed to keep required director meeting minutes for almost 2 years (despite my own constant reminders that these were both critically important), one would think that this person would not want to be throwing stones at the team that is still fixing all of that
IVRPA does not need a self appointed emperor for life who rules by whim and decree while claiming to represent the “voice of the people”, running IVRPA is a team effort requiring cooperation with others and sometimes a lot of patience, rules and bylaws are no fun but they are there for a reason and are a legal requirement of an organization like ours, and apparently some folks are better suited to this sort of cooperative governance than others
IVRPA: Past, Present, and Future
otherwise, IVRPA is currently in very good hands imo, all of our current directors know what they are doing and we have some great new candidates on the field this year too, all of whom seem to understand that cooperation is the key to any successful group endeavor
the contributions of former directors to past events and this website and IVRPA as a whole are greatly appreciated by all members, and they should now sit back and enjoy the fruits of their labors vs clinging to the past, IVRPA has another great conference planned for this coming year which we hope all will enjoy
you have been a tremendous asset to IVRPA since you have joined, and even more so since you have been volunteering on our web/social team, you are the perfect candidate imo ;)
if you are looking for new 360° tour software, Pano2VR is currently the best choice in my opinion, it has many features unavailable in any other application or service, skin editor, animation editor, patch editor, google street view support, droplets, customizable code, as well a large and friendly user and support community
otherwise, for now and the foreseeable near future, kolor panotour is still working fine
panotour is based on krpano, and the krpano developer says he intends to create krpano core update packs for panotour which should keep it up to date with modern browser developments etc
and if you already own panotour, you can extract the krpano license and use krpano directly on its own
nikon fisheyes are the only ones i have ever personally used, 10.5mm, 16mm, and the new 8-15mm zoom
all of the lenses below have their advantages and disadvantages, cost, size, weight, etc, a wider fisheye like 8mm would give you more overlap so better for masking in crowd shots etc, longer fisheyes will give more resolution and detail, cheap fisheyes are more prone to flare and chromatic aberrations, more expensive lenses are typically sharper, etc etc
Tokina 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 AT-X 107 AF DX NH Fisheye (no lens hood version) is similar FOV to nikon and canon zoom, this was a very popular 360 pano lens before canon and nikon made their own fisheye zooms, tokina 10-17mm fisheye zoom costs about $450 on amazon etc
samyang (also branded as rokinon or bower) 8mm fisheye w removable lens hood for nikon F mount is also a popular choice due to price (about $200) and easy shooting pattern, samyang 12mm fisheye (about $400) is a bit better image quality overall, but slightly more complicated shooting and stitching
sigma makes an 8mm fisheye which is supposed to be very good, but not cheap, also a 4.5mm fisheye which is not cheap either and has very very small image circle (huge waste of pixels on nikon fx), and also 10.5mm and 16mm fisheyes, both at similar price to nikon equivalents
nikon 10.5mm fisheye is a nice and small lens but requires cutting off the lens hood to use on FX full frame and 4 around w no N+Z shots (i shot like this on D800), or otherwise it will same fov as 16mm on DX in crop mode, requiring 6 around and N+Z shots for full sphere pano
nikon 16mm fisheye requires 6 shots around & N+Z shots on full frame camera, smaller and lighter compared to the zoom
nikon 8-15mm fisheye zoom is larger and heavier and more expensive than any of the other lenses above, but in my experience it has better image quality vs any of the others i have seen
samyang 8mm fisheye is fine to start with, there are better lenses but this one is ok and affordable
you can also shoot a spherical panorama with any lens, but longer FOV = more shots, so if you have a decent wide angle this will work fine on NN6, just takes a bit more work vs fisheye
otherwise, note there are both samyang 12mm fisheye and rectilinear lens which are not the same thing, and there are several models and generations of 8mm fisheye
and, samyang 12mm fisheye is not the exact same FOV as Nikon or canon 8-15mm fisheye at 12mm
8mm on any of the discussed lenses will result in a full circle image, with lots of wasted space around the circle, so that is not ideal imo, but not the end of the world either, you also get more overlap so better for crowd panos etc
nikon or canon 8-15mm fisheye zoom at 12mm will let you shoot only 4 images around at 0° for complete 360°x180 sphere with no nadir or zenith (up or down) shots needed
samyang 12mm fisheye is not quite the same FOV as the others, so it requires a different shooting pattern with additional N+Z shots
more info on shooting panos w samyang 12mm fisheye here –
NN6 is better for larger DSLR like D850, NN3 is good for smaller DSLR or mirrorless camera
full size RD10 rotator will be better also, D850 is a heavy camera and RD10 will be more stable vs mini rotator
if you are using a fisheye in single row (no up or down shots) you can use NN R10 with lens ring, this is smaller and lighter vs NN3 or NN6, but you cannot shoot multi-row panos with this head
samyang 8mm is ok, but you will not be getting the most out of D850 with that lens, nikkor 8-15mm fisheye is best fisheye lens for panos on full frame nikon, 12mm on that lens gives the max resolution for single row panos with fisheye lens, 8mm circular fisheye on either lens has lots of black area around circle so wasted pixels
here is one of my own panos with my own gear, D850 + nikkor 8-15mm @ 12mm, NN R1 + lens ring
preview image must be 1600×800 px jpg, file size should be under about 400k
embedded pano from roundme requires the embed url from the sharing code (normal page url will not work properly), it will look something like this –
also see this topic for more info – http://ivrpa.org/forums/topic/how-do-i-post-a-panorama/
back to the original question, here are 3 excellent krpano – panotour devs
Arthur van den Enk – http://virtualtuur.com
Nuno Madeira – http://wide.pt/
Majd Salim – https://www.linkedin.com/in/majd-salim-13398920/
samAugust 8, 2018 at 7:17 am in reply to: Posting 360 photos with own branding and interactivity #18032
marzipano and pannellum are also good choices if you are looking for free open source software to create 360° tours, but not as full featured as the commercial apps mentioned by jürgen
also see this page for a list of links and tutorials for shooting and stitching 360° panoramas, as well as creating and hosting your own 360° tours
if your photos do not have gps meta you must add it manually, adobe lightroom can do it but so can many other geotagging apps
once your images have gps info you can upload them to streetview using the streetview app
what type of computer are you using with the ricoh app ?
if your computer is not up to spec the app may not work as expected, check the hardware requirements here –
see this error in the console on your page, your site is denying iframe access to ivrpa.org domain, this would need to be fixed on your end
[Error] Refused to display 'https://360photoplus.com/wp-content/vt/Grand_Hotel/?html5=only&s=pano30' in a frame because it set 'X-Frame-Options' to 'SAMEORIGIN, SAMEORIGIN'.
do you mean embed your tour in a member panorama page ?
have you followed the instructions in this post ?
ssl coming soon ;)
inexpensive one shot 360 cameras like ricoh theta and gopro fusion etc can do well in ideal circumstances, but will never give you the same quality images as DSLR or mirrorless with interchangeable lens etc
for a comparison of one shot 360 cameras see this review page –
Unity + Google VR SDK ?
yes, i am in fact a current IVRPA director and webmaster for last 7+ years and IVRPA member for almost 12 years, and here i am communicating with IVRPA members without any problem or need for assistance or reminders
does IVRPA have a communications problem ?
as you yourself are in communication with myself and the other directors via your very frequent emails, facebook posts and private messages, posts in this forum, etc etc etc, i believe you should know how easy we are to reach ?
please notice the frequent IVRPA director posts and IVRPA member activity on the IVRPA facebook page, various facebook groups, twitter, youtube, etc, IVRPA is in fact quite active on all these channels and more
you might have also noticed the frequent news posts on this IVRPA site itself, have a look at our front page for example – http://ivrpa.org
and also please remember that this particular private members forum is mostly used for archiving important IVRPA member news, other forums on this site are quite a bit more active, so comparing activity here to a facebook group is missing the point, we use many other channels to communicate with our members on an almost daily basis as well
so, the assertion that IVRPA has a “communications problem” is clearly biased and not supported by any actual evidence at all, and is hence “misleading”, and as brian’s post here was only echoing your own original assertion of this alleged “problem” on your own facebook group, it is not surprising that you agree with it
mailing lists – newsletters
IVRPA uses mailchimp and other mailing list list platforms to communicate with our members about important issues for many years, not to spam our members with frequent “reminders”, we have found that frequent newsletters duplicating content already on our website only causes more folks to unsubscribe from the list (many of our members find too many “reminders” unnecessary and annoying judging by past feedback we have received) vs generating a significant number of clicks to our site, so we like to keep that channel mostly clear for important communications rather than dilute its usefulness in notifying our members of early conference tickets, elections, and other important news, i recall discussing this in great detail with you in the past at which point you agreed with this policy
and anyone who says they “really care about IVRPA” should be able to find the time to click on a bookmark once a week vs waiting for a newsletter to be dropped in their lap ?
communications director and web/social media team
IVRPA does have a communications director and web/social team, we are the ones posting here and on facebook etc, and you were part of this effort until you resigned almost 2 years ago, since that time others have been doing all the work involved here and i assure you we all know our jobs and take this responsibility very seriously, and otherwise activity and traffic from IVRPA members and non members alike have increased across all of our channels since you left the team
improving IVRPA communications and collaborating with IVRPA
anyone who wishes to contribute to the actual work involved in running and maintaining all of this should get in touch with us and let us know how you can collaborate with the IVRPA directors and web team, repeating 10 year old “ideas” (in 4 different places) that have been explored in depth by IVRPA and either implemented or rejected long ago is not quite as helpful, and remember that teamwork involves cooperation with others, not one party appointing themselves to dictate what others “should” be doing
krpano has very robust support for VR headsets as default behavior since version 1.19, click on the VR headset icon here to see a basic example
and a more elaborate example here –
Kolor Panotour Pro also suports VR headset mode –
as does Pano2VR –
shooting with a fisheye lens at infinity or hyperfocal will give sufficient DOF for most pano environments, so no real need for focus stacking unless you want to experiment with special technique in an environment where is is needed