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2nd Chat for IPIX Photographers, 12 September 2006

A second chat for IPIX photographers and those using IPIX images will be conducted on
12 SEPTEMBER 2006, (TUESDAY) at the following times: These times were set up
to accommodate European participants, but all IPIX photographers are invited.

http://www.timeanddate.com

15:00 UTC/GMT
4:00PM -- London
5:00 PM -- Paris
11:00AM -- New York City
8:00AM -- Los Angeles

Location: AIM (AOL Instant Messenger).

One confirmed participant was UK reseller of IPIX products.

The transcript of our first chat is available on the IVRPA website:
http://beta.ivrpa.org/node/542

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log of 2nd IPIX chat -12 September 2006

ivrpachat (11:11:41 AM): I'm Mike Quan, president of the IVRPA. Welcome to this chat.
Trogdor1178 (11:11:48 AM): or his predecessor
ivrpachat (11:12:00 AM): can we take a few minutes to have everyone introduce themselves.
I am Yoda 2005 (11:12:03 AM): I think it was John
ivrpachat (11:12:16 AM): (remember you can do a PRIVATE chat too...)
ivrpachat (11:12:26 AM): virtualabq?
ivrpachat (11:12:32 AM): please start.
ivrpachat (11:12:49 AM): foolgrow?
badders360 (11:12:56 AM): Hi I'm Andrew Baddeley, Head of Immersive - NMI Security plc. We are the UK/European resellers for IPIX photography producs
dompouliquen (11:13:00 AM): Hello, I'm Dominique Pouliquen, REALVIZ co-founder & CEO
Virtualabq (11:13:03 AM): I'm Doug Aurand in Albuquerque, NM I'm an iPIX Virtual Tour Photographer using iPIX Interactive Studio
taugwalderCH (11:13:28 AM): As said before, Matthias Taugwalder from Switzerland - just here out of general interest
FoolGrow (11:13:35 AM): I'm George Row I am just an interested observer where iPIX is concerned I make QTVRs
Trogdor1178 (11:13:42 AM): I am Mark Blanton former IPIX Director of Sales, immersive Photography
Ford Oxaal (11:13:49 AM): Ford Oxaal here, Minds-Eye-View, Inc. pictosphere.com
ivrpachat (11:14:16 AM): OK, thanks. I see we have a good field here!
ivrpachat (11:14:34 AM): I've had a bunch of IPIX photog email me and ask for help.
Trogdor1178 (11:14:54 AM): In what way?
Virtualabq (11:15:01 AM): Help getting in the chat or help with VR Imaging
ivrpachat (11:15:08 AM): Can we definitively state here (1) what about the dongles? (2) are ipix images "safe" ==will they last?
taugwalderCH (11:15:14 AM): (be right back)
Trogdor1178 (11:15:20 AM): yes they will
badders360 (11:15:24 AM): I can answer that
Trogdor1178 (11:15:33 AM): if they were created with I Studio or REW
badders360 (11:15:48 AM): The dongles are safe
ivrpachat (11:15:55 AM): expiration dates?
Trogdor1178 (11:16:03 AM): and you can still renew your license through the sotre
badders360 (11:16:12 AM): the expiry is based on the license not on the dongle
badders360 (11:16:20 AM): nothing is written to the dongle
Virtualabq (11:16:24 AM): Also, for real estate photographers, Homestore will continue accepting iPIX images
Trogdor1178 (11:16:28 AM): nope IPIX stopped doing expiration dates on .ipx files after Ipix wizard
badders360 (11:16:43 AM): so if you license expires in 2 months then your software stops working
Virtualabq (11:17:02 AM): You can extend your license in the iPIXStore, I did it a week after the bankruptcy
ivrpachat (11:17:10 AM): you say the IPIX site is still taking money?
badders360 (11:17:10 AM): but the images you have produced will not expire
ivrpachat (11:17:37 AM): can anyone confirm the IPIX site is taking orders TODAY?
badders360 (11:17:57 AM): what I can confirm is we are able to process orders for customers
ivrpachat (11:18:10 AM): through the IPIX store?
Trogdor1178 (11:18:20 AM): sure it
Trogdor1178 (11:18:23 AM): is*
Virtualabq (11:18:23 AM): The special master for the bankruptcy has a responsibility to take in as much money as he can to settle the debts.
badders360 (11:18:36 AM): yes, but not for new licenses
Virtualabq (11:18:50 AM): I think you can only extend a license
Virtualabq (11:18:59 AM): Not creat a new one
badders360 (11:19:16 AM): if anyone in interested they can call our sales on +44 870 351 6492 or email store@nmisecurity.com
ivrpachat (11:19:26 AM): clarification: only EXISTING licenses can be extended via the IPIX website?
badders360 (11:19:37 AM): from my side, yes
Virtualabq (11:19:55 AM): That's all I know about because I extended my license to Sept 14 2008
Trogdor1178 (11:19:59 AM): I have only gotten confirmation of renewals
ivrpachat (11:20:15 AM): what about the Real Estate sites? Who is still accepting IPX?
ivrpachat (11:20:22 AM): IPIX?
badders360 (11:20:25 AM): do you mean the images?
Trogdor1178 (11:20:33 AM): AdmissionCorp
ivrpachat (11:20:34 AM): yes, the images.
Trogdor1178 (11:20:45 AM): hosts teh Host@IPIX website
badders360 (11:20:53 AM): Also Voyager360 - see last weeks transcript
Virtualabq (11:21:08 AM): Homestore.com is still accepting .ipix files and distributing them as they were before, posted one last night
badders360 (11:21:17 AM): is everyone clear that if you have an ipix image, it will not expire
Virtualabq (11:21:25 AM): Yes
badders360 (11:21:31 AM): the only thing that is expiring are the licenses
Trogdor1178 (11:21:31 AM): And RealBiz360.. not to be confused with RealViz
ivrpachat (11:22:03 AM): so things have not "changed" too much at least for pre-existing IPIX photographers.
dompouliquen (11:22:19 AM): Just to clarify: REALVIZ is not in the hosting business, but in the stitching business
badders360 (11:22:19 AM): exactly - apart from the blip when the IPIX site was down
Virtualabq (11:22:43 AM): Not too much, I think the Real Estate Wizard users can even still buy keys
ivrpachat (11:22:59 AM): but things may change when the auction of IPIX assests is completed...
badders360 (11:23:22 AM): so the question really is where do we go from here
ivrpachat (11:23:29 AM): how many IPIX photographers are we talking about? now? active?
Virtualabq (11:23:35 AM): Yes, but according to the story in the Knoxville Sentinal, that could take 2 years
Trogdor1178 (11:24:09 AM): well who ever buys the assets isn't going to ignore teh only profitable part of the business like the former mgt did, I hope..
Trogdor1178 (11:24:12 AM): 939 Renewal Notices since Jan 1
I am Yoda 2005 (11:24:28 AM): I am looking into getting new software for the stiching, I tried out Studio 2005 Panoweaver but I several questions about the software. First, can you do drop batch? Second, does the program color balance between the two fisheyes?
Virtualabq (11:24:49 AM): There are only about 100 in the referral list on the iPIX.com site
voyager360 is not online, and therefore cannot chat.
dompouliquen (11:24:55 AM): I would like to announce that REALVIZ will come with a 2 shot solution soon.
Trogdor1178 (11:24:56 AM): easypano is painfull...
Trogdor1178 (11:25:08 AM): Dominique, Really?
I am Yoda 2005 (11:25:10 AM): That is what I thought
voyager360 is not online, and therefore cannot chat.
dompouliquen (11:25:26 AM): Release date is October 15.
Trogdor1178 (11:25:45 AM): I will have to check it out...
voyager360@mac.com has entered the chat room.
Virtualabq (11:26:01 AM): I tried PTGui and its difficult to figure out, but stitched beautifully from 4 fisheyes (the trial will only use 4)
voyager360@mac.com (11:26:02 AM): ok, thaks. I see everybody now.
Trogdor1178 (11:26:06 AM): the new 6 SHot and the V tour products are amazing
dompouliquen (11:26:15 AM): Thanks
badders360 (11:26:31 AM): does everyone know you can stitch 3 shot fisheyes with Stitcher 5.5 Unlimited?
Virtualabq (11:26:43 AM): Yes
Trogdor1178 (11:26:52 AM): Andy, do you ise teh Agnos rotator for that?
ivrpachat (11:26:55 AM): so the UNCERTAINLY about IPIX means people are looking for alternatives...
I am Yoda 2005 (11:27:07 AM): Yes,
Virtualabq (11:27:07 AM): Haven't tried the Stitcher 5.5 demo yet
badders360 (11:27:08 AM): Yes, the agnos rotator is great
ivrpachat (11:27:37 AM): the beauty of the ipix was the SPEED...of use.
badders360 (11:27:42 AM): for anyone interested in the new solution from REALVIZ, I can give more info via our website tomorrow
voyager360@mac.com (11:27:49 AM): What does anyone recommend for a two shot system?
Trogdor1178 (11:27:53 AM): and it was pretty easty to use
ivrpachat (11:28:04 AM): easy=speed :-)
dompouliquen (11:28:28 AM): The process is fully automatic, and the speed does not look like an issue for our users.
ivrpachat (11:28:37 AM): I realize we have companies offering alternatives to IPIX.
Trogdor1178 (11:28:52 AM): the 6 shot sure was faster then the 4 shot plugin for Interactive Studio
dompouliquen (11:28:54 AM): This is definitely the case with REALVIZ, yes.
Virtualabq (11:28:58 AM): As a Real Estate photographer wants is a quick easy system like the 2 fisheye method, higher priced work like hotels, I use 3 fisheyes
badders360 (11:29:34 AM): I teach IPIX and I know the key features we all like
voyager360@mac.com (11:29:40 AM): How does a 3-shot fisheye work? What is the product name, lenses? Rotator?
badders360 (11:29:55 AM): speed of stitch, batch saving, tripod caps
Trogdor1178 (11:30:07 AM): Edit in image
ivrpachat (11:30:16 AM): what about the one-shot, parabolic mirror images?
dompouliquen (11:30:21 AM): Stitcher 5.5 Unlimited can already stitch 3 shot fish-eye
Trogdor1178 (11:30:24 AM): One shots are horrible
Virtualabq (11:30:29 AM): iPIX offered a 3 stop rotator and I'm using a Manfrotto 300n Panoramic Head under an iPIX rotator for 3 and 4 stops
Trogdor1178 (11:30:42 AM): they are distorted low res and have fragile bulky equipment
Virtualabq (11:30:50 AM): the one-shote aren't full 360x360
badders360 (11:30:59 AM): to answer Voyager and Virtualbq: you can do this with Stitcher 5.5 Unlimited
badders360 (11:31:37 AM): there are a couple of rotators, I sell a number including the Agnos range perfect for 2/3 shots
ivrpachat (11:32:02 AM): back to the images: on the National Geographic site way back in 2002 were some cave interiors in IPIX format (not the java viewer)....what happens to them?
Virtualabq (11:32:16 AM): Do you have to buy an Agnos that does one or the other, but not both?
badders360 (11:32:31 AM): Those images will be fine
Trogdor1178 (11:32:44 AM): if they were hosted at Host@ipix via a contract.. the contract expired.. and the server wsa repurposed...
Trogdor1178 (11:33:08 AM): many people had one year hosting contracts that were never renewed...
badders360 (11:33:14 AM): if you are displaying using the ActiveX plugin you may have an issue as the code calls a cgi script from www.ipix.com
Virtualabq (11:33:15 AM): The 5.0 java viewer from iPIX will veiew bot the Java and Plug=In images
badders360 (11:33:43 AM): but I have the script and the browser plugins - email me at store@nmisecurity.com for details
Trogdor1178 (11:33:56 AM): but if you are hosting the images yourself then you have no ned to worry
ivrpachat (11:34:21 AM): so some people with IPIX images who had them hosted by IPIX have problems?
Trogdor1178 (11:34:48 AM): not though the normal Host@ipix... some people had special hosting agreements signed in 2001
Virtualabq (11:35:00 AM): I'm having my webmaster discontinue offering both Java and Plug-In viewer options, just the Java Viewer. There's no need for the Plug-In anymore
badders360 (11:35:08 AM): to answer Virtualbq: You neeed only buy one Agnos rotator and it will do 2/3 shots
Trogdor1178 (11:35:09 AM): tohose were for a term of one year and were not renewed.
ivrpachat (11:35:20 AM): interesting....
Trogdor1178 (11:35:34 AM): allthough the tours were up till Oct 05
badders360 (11:35:45 AM): you can also update it for higher end systems or look at other rotators such as the excellent 360 Precison - but that of course is not for two shots
Trogdor1178 (11:36:00 AM): there weree only some 10-15 under those contracts
Virtualabq (11:36:07 AM): Depending on which industry we work in, hosting is a separate issue from stitching
dompouliquen (11:36:16 AM): For the future, may I recommand the Java Pure Player from Immervision, or the Spi V viewer (Shockwave), in addition to Quick Time of course
ivrpachat (11:36:43 AM): Some parties have expressed interest in acquiring the IPIX patents, but that will take time. So some uncertainty remains for IPIx PHotographers...correct?
Virtualabq (11:36:44 AM): Does the Spi V viewer use cubic strips?
Ford Oxaal (11:37:01 AM): I have to run out for a few minutes... sorry for the interuption
Trogdor1178 (11:37:03 AM): the pure player can also show nagivable images from Rectilinier projection, yes?
dompouliquen (11:37:04 AM): Answer is ys to Virtualabq
Virtualabq (11:37:15 AM): Correct, most of use are looking at alternative software just in case
badders360 (11:37:21 AM): the point is, you should all be aware that if you are using the IPIX Java applet, you images are 100% safe. But if you are using the IPIX active X plugin - you will have a problem if (as it did happen) the IPIX site goes down
ivrpachat (11:37:24 AM): just in case...
Virtualabq (11:37:28 AM): What software create cubic strips
taugwalderCH (11:37:34 AM): Don't forget Thomas Rauscher's Flash player which was just released
ivrpachat (11:37:46 AM): always good to have options...
badders360 (11:37:49 AM): again, Stitcher 5.5 can create cubic strips
dompouliquen (11:38:09 AM): Stitcher 5.5 Unlimited can create cubes, in Immervision, Shockwave and Quick Time
ivrpachat (11:38:44 AM): There is no guarantee the IPIX site will remain online, correct?
dompouliquen (11:38:47 AM): Immervision has also announced a Flash viewer
badders360 (11:38:52 AM): that's correct
I am Yoda 2005 (11:38:59 AM): will sticher 5.5 work with 2 fisheye images
dompouliquen (11:39:09 AM): Answer is Yes to Yoda 2005
Trogdor1178 (11:39:13 AM): on Oct 15th...
Trogdor1178 (11:39:29 AM): rioght?
dompouliquen (11:39:29 AM): On Oct 15th, yes.
Trogdor1178 (11:39:29 AM): right*?
ivrpachat (11:39:30 AM): so if I were an IPIX photographer would you advise me to seek alternatives?
dompouliquen (11:39:43 AM): in the mean time, you can extend your Ipix license or use 3 shot fish-eye panoramas
Virtualabq (11:40:12 AM): Even if you have a far off expiration date, looking at alternatives is a must
ivrpachat (11:40:37 AM): (I've gotten several emails from people seeking "advice")
I am Yoda 2005 (11:40:41 AM): what program creates the full screen quicktime
dompouliquen (11:41:13 AM): Again, Stitcher 5.5 can create full screen quicktime. There are a lot of very cool examples in our gallery
Virtualabq (11:41:21 AM): Dompouliquen, I extendeded my license til 09/2008 and can stitch 3 fisheyes
dompouliquen (11:41:41 AM): Correct.
ivrpachat (11:41:56 AM): If I have the cave IPIX images from years ago, How can I convert them to some other format?
ivrpachat (11:42:12 AM): (I 'm not going back to the cave anytime soon :-)
Trogdor1178 (11:42:18 AM): Dominique, will teh 2 shot be able to use a Canon 5D and a Sigma 8mm?
dompouliquen (11:42:30 AM): Yes, of course.
Trogdor1178 (11:42:37 AM): You can convert them by sending tehm to me... I will convert to .mov
Trogdor1178 (11:42:57 AM): So you only need 180 Deg. FOV not any greater?
ivrpachat (11:43:06 AM): do you charge? I saw several ads for IPIX conversions?
Virtualabq (11:43:15 AM): iPIX Interactive Studio with the Format pack can output numerous formats including EquiRectangular
Trogdor1178 (11:43:38 AM): Nah... how many are there?
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Trogdor1178 (11:44:01 AM): I mean if I can do it in less then an hour I will convert them
Virtualabq (11:44:12 AM): Most of the conversions, were meant to move the photog to another software
ivrpachat (11:44:16 AM): A google search on IPIX shows: "convert IPIX", and "IPIX alternatives"
Virtualabq (11:44:41 AM): The only software that can work with the .ipx format is iPIX's
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voyager360@mac.com (11:45:13 AM): We at Voyager are working on iPIX compatible KEYS...
Trogdor1178 (11:45:33 AM): is that legal?
voyager360@mac.com (11:45:38 AM): In addition to letting customers HOST their own native iPIX generated (.ipx) tours.
voyager360@mac.com (11:45:59 AM): yes. it is.
voyager360@mac.com (11:46:12 AM): just like there areCLONE PCs
Trogdor1178 (11:46:17 AM): send me the info please
voyager360@mac.com (11:46:32 AM): There will be the need for other companies to support the IPX format just as there are many firms that spit out QTVR movies.
ivrpachat (11:46:33 AM): quick question: How many photographers were ORDERING ipix keys up to the end?
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voyager360@mac.com (11:46:42 AM): Generating IPIX compatible keys poses no problem that we see.
Trogdor1178 (11:46:53 AM): about 25,000 a month in keys...
Trogdor1178 (11:46:59 AM): dollars
Virtualabq (11:47:10 AM): What about iPIX Software that doesn't use keys?
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voyager360@mac.com (11:47:36 AM): Is the ipix sotre down now?
voyager360@mac.com (11:47:50 AM): Last week, many custoemrs were still ordering keys for their Real Estate Wizard software.
ivrpachat (11:47:52 AM): so IPIX was pulling in $25k a month from key sales ?
Trogdor1178 (11:47:55 AM): no
Trogdor1178 (11:48:05 AM): yes keys only
Trogdor1178 (11:48:34 AM): average sales were 145K a month.... 30% hardware...
ivrpachat (11:48:36 AM): what was the HIGH for key revenue?
Trogdor1178 (11:48:41 AM): look on the 10K
ivrpachat (11:49:07 AM): I have a hard time believing 10k, (former MCI stock holder...)
Virtualabq (11:49:21 AM): That's why I think somebody is going to buy the appropriate patents and the still image software, there's cash flow
ivrpachat (11:49:22 AM): 10K reports...
Trogdor1178 (11:49:49 AM): Well IPIX had extrernal auditors and well as internal... Sarbanes Oxly...
Trogdor1178 (11:49:56 AM): teh 10K's are true
Trogdor1178 (11:50:20 AM): we did almost .5M in Sills in Q1
Virtualabq (11:50:41 AM): Richard Boughner formaerly with iPIX, told me
Virtualabq (11:50:57 AM): The Still Image division made money in 2005
ivrpachat (11:51:04 AM): what if someone like Ford comes up with "alternate" software...is it backfor the lawyers?
Trogdor1178 (11:51:04 AM): Richard Boughner initiated some really good accounts...
Trogdor1178 (11:51:35 AM): you'll have to ask Ford...
Ford Oxaal (11:51:40 AM): Just got back -- I see discussion of alternative software -- we are happy to open up the field -- software manufacturers are invited to contact us regarding licensing... We have a package at pictosphere.com as well
ivrpachat (11:52:04 AM): Good timing, Ford :-)
ivrpachat (11:52:20 AM): I can see where this is confusing....
Trogdor1178 (11:52:35 AM): google Ford Oxxal and IPIX...
Ford Oxaal (11:52:47 AM): What's confusing Mike?
Trogdor1178 (11:52:50 AM): Oxaal*
Virtualabq (11:52:52 AM): Depending on who buys the patents/software, they may just license anybody they feel is infringing...cash flow!!!
Trogdor1178 (11:53:17 AM): also look up IPIX on teh US patent DB...
Virtualabq (11:53:36 AM): This is an old argument, lets move on
I am Yoda 2005 (11:53:50 AM): I have export all the IPIX 360's for quicktime, does anyone know of a software that can edit quicktime moives? I need to apply an autospin and adjust the opening window size.
badders360 (11:54:00 AM): Existing IPIX customers should be aware that as time passes, clients will feel less likely to buy images based on a company that's bankrupt
ivrpachat (11:54:07 AM): (should be interesting :-)
dompouliquen (11:54:16 AM): Stticher 5.5 Unlimited can do (answer to Yoda)
Ford Oxaal (11:54:16 AM): No, we have the stitching patents, as well as viewing -- we originally licensed IPIX. Now is a good time to open up the field.
badders360 (11:54:17 AM): if IPIX rises again, then all well and good
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Trogdor1178 (11:55:18 AM): welcome John!
Virtualabq (11:55:19 AM): With the IIS I can output any format they want, the advantage to the .ipx format is the Java Viewer with progressive loading, not possible with the PTViewer
ivrpachat (11:55:20 AM): well, the next several months should prove interesting :-)
ivrpachat (11:55:34 AM): Hi John,
badders360 (11:55:35 AM): but as Ford says, now is the time to look at what else is on offer
ivrpachat (11:55:50 AM): JOhn are you using IPIX or something else?
badders360 (11:56:18 AM): you also have progressive Java with Immervision pureplayer
dompouliquen (11:56:34 AM): Again, looking for a Java alternative, please consider Immervision's Pure Player (also working on PDAs, Falsh...)
johnvincenti360 (11:56:44 AM): I use IPIX for Real Estate, shoting houses almost every day, and uploading to Hometour360, previously uploading to Host@IPIX
ivrpachat (11:56:54 AM): the basic fact is photographers do not want to pay for keys if possible...
ivrpachat (11:57:08 AM): so John, what are your concerns?
badders360 (11:57:12 AM): agree- that was my hardest sell
dompouliquen (11:57:16 AM): I agree that this is an old business model (answer to ivrpachat)
Virtualabq (11:57:19 AM): What file type does Immersivision use fro progressive loading?
ivrpachat (11:57:49 AM): (just askiing John's two cents....)
badders360 (11:57:49 AM): Immervision uses the .ivp format
Virtualabq (11:58:09 AM): Is the .ivp format full 360x360?
badders360 (11:58:13 AM): yes
dompouliquen (11:58:31 AM): Yes : 360 H by 180 V in fact ;-)
Trogdor1178 (11:58:34 AM): I wonder who will pick up the IPIX military product...
Trogdor1178 (11:58:49 AM): the GRIDS product...
Ford Oxaal (11:58:50 AM): We are working on that now
Virtualabq (11:58:54 AM): .ivp is PhotoVista isn't it?
johnvincenti360 (11:59:03 AM): I'd like to find a easy to use alternative to IPIX for stitching fisheyes, keep my camera set-up, and find a visually nicer solution forhosting.
ivrpachat (11:59:18 AM): thanks John.
Trogdor1178 (11:59:27 AM): realbiz360 has a hosting solution
badders360 (11:59:37 AM): hi John, if you read up the listing there are solutions coming
Ford Oxaal (11:59:50 AM): To johnvincenti: try out our software, or Dominiques
ivrpachat (11:59:53 AM): (chat log will be posted...)
ivrpachat (12:00:08 PM): OK, we shoud wrap up...
ivrpachat (12:00:17 PM): anyone...last questions?
Virtualabq (12:00:19 PM): I'm not a big fan of Homestore, but they support images that use the PTViewer as well as iPIX
Trogdor1178 (12:00:39 PM): Dominique, will the 2 shot have the ability to support point and shoot cameras?
I am Yoda 2005 (12:00:55 PM): Did anyone recommend a quicktime editing software or solution
Trogdor1178 (12:00:59 PM): I hear reavbiz360 has chooseable skins...
Trogdor1178 (12:01:10 PM): Stitcher 5.5
dompouliquen (12:01:32 PM): If there is a full circle fish eye lens for it, the answer is yes.
Trogdor1178 (12:01:37 PM): cool
Virtualabq (12:01:38 PM): Quicktime isn't supported by the real estate sites or most of the national hotel websites
ivrpachat (12:01:48 PM): any word on the IPIX assets sales? time table? date?
Trogdor1178 (12:02:03 PM): contact Stephen Karbelk at tranzon fox
I am Yoda 2005 (12:02:09 PM): That is ok, I do not shot real estate
ivrpachat (12:02:14 PM): (I registered with the auction house...no info as yet).
Trogdor1178 (12:02:30 PM): what are planning on buying?
johnvincenti360 (12:02:39 PM): Where does one register with the auction house?
Trogdor1178 (12:02:41 PM): the name?
badders360 (12:02:50 PM): Question: are people still confused by what IPIX images you can still view and what ones you can't?
voyager360@mac.com (12:02:54 PM): Tranzon.com
voyager360@mac.com (12:02:59 PM): is name of the auction firm
Virtualabq (12:03:15 PM): No confusion here
ivrpachat (12:03:19 PM): (has an for sale list been issued?
badders360 (12:03:20 PM): Do you all haev the information you need to know how to move your business forward?
Trogdor1178 (12:03:37 PM): Executive Vice PresidentTranzon Fox3819 Plaza DriveFairfax, VA 22030703-912-3307 (office
ivrpachat (12:04:13 PM): But what exactly is for sale? I don't know....
voyager360@mac.com (12:04:20 PM): No the list is not done yet. It will be sent to those interested in iPIX trademarks and patents.
Trogdor1178 (12:04:24 PM): it's being sliced 3 ways
Virtualabq (12:04:33 PM): Everything, office furniture, patents, etc
Trogdor1178 (12:04:48 PM): Video, immersive Photo, and Persistant Wide area survailiance
Trogdor1178 (12:04:56 PM): yes everything
ivrpachat (12:05:03 PM): OK, last questions? comments? ANYONE?
Ford Oxaal (12:05:23 PM): THanks for having us Mike!
Trogdor1178 (12:05:31 PM): Thanks!
dompouliquen (12:05:33 PM): Many thanks.
ivrpachat (12:05:36 PM): question: is there a email list for IPIX photographers?
badders360 (12:05:37 PM): Thanks for a good discussion, I suggest another again soon.
I am Yoda 2005 (12:05:38 PM): Thank you
Virtualabq (12:05:45 PM): Mike, thanks for your help getting in the Chat
ivrpachat (12:05:55 PM): you welcome...
voyager360@mac.com (12:05:59 PM): That list of photographers is one of the assets being offered by Tranzon, Mike.
badders360 (12:06:01 PM): I can set one up if you wish
johnvincenti360 (12:06:03 PM): Yahoo Group [ipix-dev] I'm the moderator.
Trogdor1178 (12:06:16 PM): Dominique, I would like to discuss your Oct 15th release further, may you please cal me?
johnvincenti360 (12:06:19 PM): about 50 members
Virtualabq (12:06:25 PM): Voyager, I have the list in a MS Word format
voyager360@mac.com (12:06:34 PM): Would love to get a copy.
ivrpachat (12:06:37 PM): OK, we can post our "messages" at the IVRPA forum (for free) please share your resources, and discounts!
voyager360@mac.com (12:06:39 PM): :-D
dompouliquen (12:06:41 PM): Of course. Please e-mail to me at: dominique.pouliquen@realviz.com
ivrpachat (12:06:46 PM): http:/www.ivrpa.org
voyager360@mac.com (12:06:50 PM): Will do.
dompouliquen (12:06:59 PM): Question to ivrpachat: any date for the European event ?
voyager360@mac.com (12:07:02 PM): For those that need iPIX hosting, we've been hosting them natively for 3 years.
voyager360@mac.com (12:07:04 PM): http://www.kayyah.com/ipix_livedemo.php?listingid=18998
voyager360@mac.com (12:07:19 PM): We upgraded the tour window to include satellite maps, and Photographer branding, too.
badders360 (12:07:21 PM): feel free to email me also andrew.baddeley@nmisecurity.com
Ford Oxaal (12:07:31 PM): ford@pictosphere.com
Virtualabq (12:07:36 PM): For the North America iPIX list, e-mail me at DJAurand@aol.com
johnvincenti360 (12:07:48 PM): http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/ipix-dev/
Trogdor1178 (12:07:58 PM): mblanton3@cox.net
ivrpachat (12:08:07 PM): dominquie the LIsbon Summit was not a IVRPA event, but it is cancelled.
dompouliquen (12:08:26 PM): Oups.. I got confused here. Yes, it has been cancelled.
ivrpachat (12:08:45 PM): thanks all, I will have the chat log on line...please share your resources if you can...
dompouliquen (12:08:56 PM): Bye
ivrpachat (12:09:00 PM): chat has ended!
Trogdor1178 (12:09:02 PM): cheers!
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