Picture New York Petition
From Magnum photos:
This is an important petition for all photographers and filmmakers in New York. If this governs a precedent it might become important for photographers all around the world. Please read the petition and sign it if you agree with what it says.
Background information in the New York Times http://urltea.com/12rc
Sign the petition here: http://www.pictureny.org/petition/index.php
-mickael
Re: Picture New York Petition
It would appear that this is just another example of administration out of control.
Here in France, a country which is renowned for it's love of paperwork, such permits have been around for years. However, even in a country of pen-pushers and official rubber stamps, they treat their tourists, amateur and professionals photographers with more dignity.
Tourists can shoot wherever tourists go ... except inside the Louvre and where it says 'no photography' etc. Keeping it simple. For those who are a little more adventurous (amateurs and pros), authorisation and/or written permission is required when:
shooting in a city garden or park
shooting in/around any government building
(or other obvious public/private-owned/operated establishments)
I carry a government-issued press card and a folded piece of A4 from the Prefecture which starts : "Filming in public areas where permission is not required".
It then goes on to list 9 conditions including shooting 'off the shoulder' and the use of tripods. So long as you don't block the pavement or block the regular pedestrian traffic, conduct your shoot in a public park or in the courtyard of a government building, then you can basically do whatever you want. It's simply a case of being sensible.
This sheet of paper, I should add, is ideal for those who are not bona-fide press card holders. It goes under a sub-heading of 'Simplified Procedure' - foot-patrol Police can't be expected to know all the rules so this spells it out on official headed paper. At one time or another I have handed this piece of A4 to officers and it has been given back accompanied by a smart salute and I am left alone to conduct whatever it is I am doing.
The majority of stories that come out of the civilised world about "journalist/photographer arrested", normally come about because the journalist or photographer in question has been doing something stupid and has aggressively argued the point, knowing (quite clearly) that whatever he or she was doing was against the rules.
"If this governs a precedent it might become important for photographers all around the world" ... I doubt that if the USA starts flexing it's muscles with this particular domestic topic (based on the terrorism attack on the WTC), the rest of the world will necessarily follow.
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If I my note, Chicago has a same goofy rule, and I don’t want to start a shooting match but I think it’s unethical to be commissioned to create something for public display get paid for it, and then turn around and claim another payment.
The artist knew when they were commissioned that the art was being placed in a Public park, next time maybe you should have charged more instead of trying to make it up on the backs of other artist.
http://chicagoist.com/2005/02/17/millennium_park_photography_the_officia...
Tom Jelen
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I understand the concern about restrictions on photographers, but have had no problem in Albuquerque.
What Ive done is contact museums, stadiums, sports arenas, etc and asked permission to shoot a virtual tour for my website www.VirtualAlbuquerque.com. I guide them to the site and walk them through a similar location/facility on the site. And I show them how it will benefit them. That's gotten easier to sell now that www.VirtualAlbuquerque.com is getting 20,000 visits a month
Not only am I allowed to shoot outside, they let me shoot inside museums like the Albuquerque Museum of Fine Art, New Mexico Museum of Natural history, Unser Racing Museum and, for www.VirtualSantaFe.com, the Palace of the Governors history museum. Instead of a virtual image of the front of Isotopes Park (the local AAA baseball team is the Albuquerque Isotopes), I've got a VR scene from the Batter's Box on the playing field. And Center Court in the University of New Mexico Arena (lovingly called the Pit becasue of the way it was contructed). And a scene from the 50 Yard Line of the UNM Football Stadium
To me a virtual image of the outside of a location is usually a waste of time, a still photo does a better job. A VR Scene of the front gets the building....and the parking lot. Given that some street scenes are great shots and I'm working on an intersection by intersection tour of downtown Albuquerque. The first scene is where Route 66 crossed Route 66 in Albuquerque.
Taking the time to call, explain what you want to do, what you're going to do with the VR photos and how the location/facility will benefit usually gets the photographer almost unrestricted access and fantastic virtual images the anonymous "out front" photographer will never get.
Douglas Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
Re: Picture New York Petition
the main prob with the original rules as proposed, was that anybody using a tripod and/or remaining in one place for too long and/or is with another person or persons would basically be considered guilty of commercial photography, and would thus require a permit + insurance... (i'm sure a funny looking pano head would help too !)
biggest problem with all this in the end is ill informed cops thinking they have the right to chase away photographers who might look too "professional"...
shooting a magic hour pano, i would definitely be in violation of the originally proposed rules, camping out in 1 place w/ tripod for 1/2 hour at least, and dont wanna miss my shot while arguing with a cop....
anyway, they are now re-drafting these proposed rules, see this link -
http://www.nyc.gov/html/film/html/news/090107_moftb_rules_redraft.shtml
BTW, i have worked with the MOFTB for many years, as they are the folks who permit all commercial film/photo activity in NYC, which scouting & permitting for is my main gig, and they are not bad people at all, but are just used to dealing with projects like the bourne ultimatum, i am legend, spiderman, etc, they don't really understand hobbyists and the like...
sam
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Re: Picture New York Petition
It's worth mentioning that photographers have required permits and insurance to shoot in NY for at least fifteen years, the only new thing about it is that the guidelines are being written up properly so that they get applied equally. I'm surprised that the NY Times did so little research on the matter!
Ian Wood
Landmarks of Britain
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