Coming back to a changed industry!
Hi, I'm rediscoving VR tours and panoramic photography but I have questions. I worked for clients many years ago shooting a Nikon D100 with a 17-35 lens, Kaidan head and software such as Realviz for stitching and Java-based tour apps like IBM's hotMedia which I loved because it gave me a wide-screen feel. Can anyone recommend some good applications (software)? What are people using today? Also what should I be looking at to stay competeitve? I see lots of HDR and flash based VR tours. I'd love to give clients a map based VR tour with quicktime or full screen window. What can do this for me the best? VR Worx? Thanks!! -Sean
Re: Coming back to a changed industry!
Hi Sean,
First off, join the IVRPA.
You'll get more help that way and perhaps more recommendations.
Robert
Re: Coming back to a changed industry!
Thanks for the info! I am a member now! Great site!!
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Sean
When I click on "Artwerks" it still shows you as a non-member.
It may be a glitch in the site.
I'll assume its a glitch and that you're not undermining your credibility by BSing us
Welcome to the IVRPA
Douglas Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
Re: Coming back to a changed industry!
FYI, after paying to become a member there's a manual step to promote the user account on the website to member status. Our treasurer may just not have had the time yet to do so. Not a glitch, no bullshit, some things just take a small while.
Could you be a little less aggressive towards new or potential members? There's nothing wrong with encouraging people to sign up for a membership, but we do not want to obligate people to become members just for using the public forum.
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Yes I have "joined" the site, but I'm not a paying member yet, hence the question logged into the "public" forum. I simply had some questions I thought I'd throw out there. I was hoping things wouldn't get petty and stay on topic. Thanks all, for the advice, regardless.
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Artwerks
Most of us would have been happy to offer some suggestions like I did, until you lied about being a member.
Robert's a little over-bearing sometimes, but he's a very good virtual image photographer and even though I enjoy trading barbs with him, I also value many of his suggestions and much of his advise.
All you had to say is you wanted to wait a little while before paying for a membership, to see if being a member was worth the $50.
We provided a lot of free advise to Panorado, before we dropped the "buy a membership" bomb on him.
Its such a platitude, honesty is the best policy, but now your credibility is shot.
I'm with Robert ( damn that feels wierd ;) ) now, pay for a membership if you want anymore suggestions or advise from me.
Douglas Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
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Doug, please stop using this tone of voice. It is unnecessary. The IVRPA membership is not a bomb for you to drop.
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Aldo
Membership may not be "my bomb" to drop, but declining to offer my suggestions, advise and participation is.
I have a real problem with people who lie while they're asking me to help them. Especially after I've already offered some help.
In fact I was the only member who did ?!?!?!?!
Douglas Aurand
Albuquerque, NM
Re: Coming back to a changed industry!
Artwerks, welcome to the IVRPA community.
Even though the industry has developed a lot over the past few years, the shear number of technologies converging means that the industry is still maturing. VRWorx, as far as I know, has become one of the dinosaurs of this industry. There are lots of small companies doing lots more exciting stuff.
For Flash based panoramas, I recommend Pano2VR. You will find that this tool in particular is not a 'turnkey' solution; it does not offer 'stitching' functionality, but allows you to take some of the next steps after stitching. Most professionals in the panorama industry use a series of tools these days, each excelling at what each tool does best. For example, by far the most powerful, flexible (and popular) stitcher at the moment is PTGui. Many people use Photomatixto 'tonemap' bracketed exposures (I personally don't like 'the look'). Etc
What equipment do you plan to use?
Re: Coming back to a changed industry!
Thanks Aldo, I'm finding that Quicktime is very popular as usual. So I picked up VR Worx. The PTGui demo I got failed to stitch a few of my panos but VRWorx just seems to work great! I found something called Site Grinder too which allows me to use my PhotoShop skills and build some cool interfaces for all my stills and panos. Additionally I use a Nikon D80 and a 12mm Nikkor with Kaidan heads. Its work great! I'm enjoying the idustry once again and looking forward to doing more work! Thanks for the advise.
To you "old ladys" out there who feel the need to batter someone because of a simple mistake between not correctly identifying the difference between membership and registration. Get a life. Aren't there better things to discuss on here? VR rocks, why not talk about that? Enjoy the industry its great!! Thanks again Aldo
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If you are using the 12-24 mm nikkor I doubt very much that VRVorx can handle it without doing special correction for the distortions before you stitch.
It has a nasty moustache distortion. I guess you are using a large overlap like 50% as we did in old days so when you just do cylindric panos the distortion is outside the seam.
PTGui can correct for it but you have to learn how to do it.
Do not use the automatic stitching but use a couple of hours to learn the principals of lens correction.
When you have a correction for your lens and saved a template with it PTGui is extremely fast.
Hans

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Sean
You'd probably do well with;
Nikon D200
Nikkor 10.5mm or Sigma 8mm fisheye lens
Nodal Ninja 3 Rotator
RealViz Stitcher Unlimited 5.6
The PTViewer or QuickTime to play the images
Flash is just getting into the game as a medium for virtual imaging, Java Viewers and QuickTime are still the workhorses
For a map-based "tour" take a look a easypano's Tourweaver. There's a template for flooplan navigation that could use a map instead of a floorplan.
Douglas Aurand
Albuquerque, NM